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BigBadDon

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Easy Start Kit for Explorers
« on: December 24, 2013, 06:46:14 PM »
I chatted with the Canada OSSA distributor today (great guy).  He said there is no easy start kit yet available for the 2012-2013 explorers.  For the 2014 explorers, it is built into the system.  Press and hold the engine kill button for a few seconds and this will charge the capacitor (I would turn off the headlight too).  Then you have 30 seconds to start the engine.

For us poor folk who have the 2012-2013 we'll have to modify our own bikes.  It's basically a 9V battery with a pushbutton switch that charges the cap.  Scroll down on this page for a wiring diagram.

http://www.ossauk.co.uk/?Technical%26nbsp%3B%26amp%3B_Parts

I'll be doing mine later this week and post a "how to" somewhere.



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Re: Easy Start Kit for Explorers
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2013, 07:08:54 PM »
OK, there is something fishy here.  I just pulled off the headlight to (brand new) my 2012 explorer and I see a battery under the instrument panel.  I measured the voltage and its sitting at 13.1V

Hmmm...

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Re: Easy Start Kit for Explorers
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2013, 12:38:26 AM »
Now I am totally confused.  The STOCK explorer comes with a 12V lithium battery.  Its in the parts list. It even says in the specs that the explorer is "Battery Assisted Kick".

Me wonders why Jay's bike is so damn hard to kick?

Is there really an easy start option for the explorer?  Is it like the easy start system for the trials bikes i.e. battery charge the capacitor?  If this is the case then does the existing explorer battery change the cap?

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Re: Easy Start Kit for Explorers
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2013, 03:08:25 AM »
Does turning the key on with your charge it or something?

With mine i think the key just acts like a kill button essentially- doesn't seem to matter if I leave it on.
Only two wires go to it.

Adrain is trying to get a real wiring diagram, but it appears not available yet. Sure would be nice!

How well does yours start.

I understand mine started 2nd kick out of the crate, but when I got it (before finding out how the easy start works) I couldn't get it to start.
Once I used the easy start if fired right up.

I have no idea how the kill button is charging the cap- since I have no diagram.

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Re: Easy Start Kit for Explorers
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2013, 04:04:05 PM »
Hmmm - the plot thickens.  Turning on the key charges the capacitor.  I have to do some more to the bike before the first start - I'll let y'all know how it goes.


WRONG - read below...
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Re: Easy Start Kit for Explorers
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2013, 03:00:01 AM »
After much drama I got the bike going.  I am not sure how many kicks to getting it going cold, but it only takes one kick to start it hot.  Like Jay's bike, it takes a hefty kick.

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Re: Easy Start Kit for Explorers
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2013, 08:23:26 AM »
Try this next time.

Leave the key off, kick it once,
Turn the key on, kick it right away (never touch the throttle).

Kick it like a gasser, take up the slack and give it a health kick. For me it helps if I stand on something with my left foot to get higher and a better kick.

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Re: Easy Start Kit for Explorers
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2013, 12:00:44 AM »
Went out for a real ride today. Starting was a non-issue.  I don't know why I was all freaked about it - maybe from reading all the nightmares with the trials bikes (that don't have a battery). 

4 kicks from cold.  1 kick when hot. Easy Peasy.

It is a hefty kick though, but no problemo - thats the same as the gassers too.

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Re: Easy Start Kit for Explorers
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2013, 02:01:32 AM »
Great news!
  I know Mine wouldn't start for a darn until I was told about the kill button push. Now easy.

How do you like it so far?

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Re: Easy Start Kit for Explorers
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2013, 02:33:06 AM »
It was a good ride.  Rides very much like the other trials bikes I owned.  I loved the power, very smooth and lots of it.  Easy to pop the front wheel with just the throttle.

I need to do a bunch of tweaks, but one thing that bugs me is that it does shift worth a damn.  Tough to find gears either up or down.  Perhaps its just a break in issue.

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Re: Easy Start Kit for Explorers
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2013, 02:59:27 AM »
Mine shifted well out of the crate- they claim gearbox improvements.

What oil are you using?

Mine even takes more oil (450cc vrs 350cc)
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Re: Easy Start Kit for Explorers
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2013, 03:42:12 AM »
I am using Belray Gear Saver.  I cant get find any 75W synth locally.  and a few guys on TC used this stuff with success.

The clutch seems to operate fine.  Its the darn shifting thats the problem.

What do you use?

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Re: Easy Start Kit for Explorers
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2013, 06:42:17 AM »
I was told to use

Maxima Extra4 0W-10 Synthetic 4T Motorcycle Engine Oil


I changed it at 5 hours, 10 hours and pretty often after.

To get it all out on the 2014 the clutch cover needs to be loosened.
I tried leaning the bike back and forth, but it it didn't work. Of course, the oil wasn't  hot either.

Very little metal on the drain magnet.

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Re: Easy Start Kit for Explorers
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2013, 02:24:03 PM »
Did the dealer or LewisSport tell you to use this?

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Re: Easy Start Kit for Explorers
« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2013, 07:02:20 PM »
Did the dealer or LewisSport tell you to use this?

I my case both are the same as I bought it from Lewisport.
Adrian was quite specific on the oil and weight.
Similar weight to what you are using, as 10 motor oil is similar to 75 trans.
But the multigrade may help when oil is still cold.

I got is from my local KTM dealer (PA Power) but available on amazon also, and Lewisport stocks it.

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